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Ryuji-Dono
Joined: 26 Apr 2018
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:16 pm
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I'm on the view that a work should work on its own merits regardless of how derivative or unique they are, for as long the story, setting and characters can be pretty compelling and enjoyable to read.
And it seems Delicious in Dungeon is one who really executes the premise and setting quite well.
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Piglet the Grate
Joined: 25 May 2021
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:25 pm
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How can the current state of fantasy anime be discussed without mentioning Sousou no Frieren (Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End)?
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Dr. Wily
Joined: 09 Nov 2007
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:05 pm
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Piglet the Grate wrote: | How can the current state of fantasy anime be discussed without mentioning Sousou no Frieren (Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End)? |
And how an actual recent plot point is that a lot of people don't explore dungeons anymore because Himmel's party already went through most of them years ago and (because Himmel was a completionist) there's no longer any reason to.
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Fluwm
Joined: 28 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:26 am
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I find myself perpetually disappointed by the state of the modern fantasy genre, as it stands with regard to Japanese novels, manga, anime, etc. The generic western high fantasy settings can sometimes be used to great effect -- but that only happens very rarely.
It's especially annoying given just how rich fantasy manga/anime/novels used to be, to this day I count Twelve Kindoms among the finest anime ever produced -- and it's technically an Isekai! Nevermind things like Mushishi, Slayers, Moribito, Wolf's Rain, Haibame Renmei, etc.
I think this part really cuts to the truth of the matter:
Quote: | But if your only reference point for writing an isekai is other isekai, you're already hampered by that limited frame. Good writing synthesizes a whole slew of diverse influences in a profound or novel way. |
So much of this feels like it was written by people who exclusively consume the same type of media as what they want to produce. I am reminded about those anecdotes about how Satoru Iwata (iirc) would deliberately look for prospective employees that had deep interests in fields outside of video games.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:20 am
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The elf-ears-in-frog-suit gag was easily my favorite of Dungeon Meshi, though it had a lot of competition. So good.
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