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wewhomustnotbenamed



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:07 am Reply with quote
finally well written article explain it.
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At this point, my expectations for the Solo Leveling anime are non-existent.
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Yes, thank you Kim for this. I always love getting a peak behind the anime production curtain.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:36 am Reply with quote
This is exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:52 am Reply with quote
Well-written and easy to parse; thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:54 pm Reply with quote
Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible is not an Aniplex production, but looking at the staff, it's clear it is yet another case of poor scheduling and bad distribution of staff.

- The director Kazuomi Koga already has two other series booked for 2023, not to mention he came right off Rent-a-Girlfriend S2, which aired just a few months prior.

- Character designer Yoshiko Sato is working for both Kubo and Farming Life in Another World from this season.

- Animation producer Kazuyoshi Mukaitoge worked on Do It Yourself! from last season.


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The thing is, though, people should have seen this coming.


Exactly. Covid is certainly still around, but hiding behind that excuse is not credible at this point. The real issue isn't covid. The real issue is that management knew about covid (and Chinese holidays) and utterly failed to account for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:43 pm Reply with quote
SilverTalon01 wrote:
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The thing is, though, people should have seen this coming.


Exactly. Covid is certainly still around, but hiding behind that excuse is not credible at this point. The real issue isn't covid. The real issue is that management knew about covid (and Chinese holidays) and utterly failed to account for it.


For sure. I don't doubt it played a role, but relying on the same old ways of trying to crank out as much content on as tight a deadline as possible was going to make it a problem that they couldn't work around.

Since the production committees have to pay for TV time, I do wonder of the added cost of relying on reruns and then buying more time to finish the season will make them take note.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:58 pm Reply with quote
As others have already said, no doubt Covid can factor in, but it seems to definitely be a production issue first and foremost if there's this much of a pattern.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:04 pm Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:
For sure. I don't doubt it played a role, but relying on the same old ways of trying to crank out as much content on as tight a deadline as possible was going to make it a problem that they couldn't work around.

Since the production committees have to pay for TV time, I do wonder of the added cost of relying on reruns and then buying more time to finish the season will make them take note.

Yeah, they're burning money on these delays, it make more sense to finish a season before broadcast.
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Actually, it doesn't. Let's do some simple math. Let's say a 12-episode show costs $1-million per episode to make, for a total of $12-million dollars. If a production company has to wait until all 12 episodes are finished before delivering them to a broadcaster, that means it has to raise that full $12-milion ahead of time to pay everybody working on it. How the system really works is that a production company has perhaps 4 episodes in the can - meaning they've spent $4-million - by the time the show starts airing. $4-million is a lot easier to raise than $12-million. As money for completed episodes enters their coffers, they can cash flow the rest of the episodes in the pipeline.

What does make more sense is for a production company to be more realistic in what it can accomplish and if there are warning signs that they've got too much on their plate such that even a little bobble could grind everything to a halt, then be responsible and don't take on the committment because clearly rolling the dice and crossing your fingers in the hope it's all gonna work out isn't always a winning strategy.
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Blood- wrote:
Actually, it doesn't. Let's do some simple math. Let's say a 12-episode show costs $1-million per episode to make, for a total of $12-million dollars. If a production company has to wait until all 12 episodes are finished before delivering them to a broadcaster, that means it has to raise that full $12-milion ahead of time to pay everybody working on it. How the system really works is that a production company has perhaps 4 episodes in the can - meaning they've spent $4-million - by the time the show starts airing. $4-million is a lot easier to raise than $12-million. As money for completed episodes enters their coffers, they can cash flow the rest of the episodes in the pipeline.

That sounds like a business problem. Are production companies operating on such tight margins that they don't have cash on the books to fund a cour of anime? That seems like an even bigger problem than production delays.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:08 pm Reply with quote
LadonTree wrote:
Blood- wrote:
Actually, it doesn't. Let's do some simple math. Let's say a 12-episode show costs $1-million per episode to make, for a total of $12-million dollars. If a production company has to wait until all 12 episodes are finished before delivering them to a broadcaster, that means it has to raise that full $12-milion ahead of time to pay everybody working on it. How the system really works is that a production company has perhaps 4 episodes in the can - meaning they've spent $4-million - by the time the show starts airing. $4-million is a lot easier to raise than $12-million. As money for completed episodes enters their coffers, they can cash flow the rest of the episodes in the pipeline.

That sounds like a business problem. Are production companies operating on such tight margins that they don't have cash on the books to fund a cour of anime? That seems like an even bigger problem than production delays.


Production companies do not finance their own shows. This is true in all types of film and movie production around the world. Companies have to raise outside financing to make content. It's just like a real estate developer. Such a company doesn't build an office tower from its own funds. It has to raise the money from banks, investors and pre-sales. It's the same for TV production except that banks generally don't provide loans for that sort of thing. A TV production company has to find investors, do pre-sales to broadcasters, etc, but the main way they cash flow their operation is to deliver completed episodes to broadcasters. That's why waiting until an entire cours is actually in the can is generally impractical.

It's different if a show is, say, a Netflix Original. In that case, Netflix just finances the entire show which is how they can do their binging model.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:24 pm Reply with quote
TheSleepyMonkey wrote:
Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible is not an Aniplex production, but looking at the staff, it's clear it is yet another case of poor scheduling and bad distribution of staff.


This is said right there in the article:

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I've mainly focused on Aniplex in this column because it's the most egregious example on display. Still, it is worth noting that Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible, headed by Pony Canyon, has also announced a delay until April. It's a tough situation all around.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:32 am Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
TheSleepyMonkey wrote:
Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible is not an Aniplex production, but looking at the staff, it's clear it is yet another case of poor scheduling and bad distribution of staff.


This is said right there in the article:

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I've mainly focused on Aniplex in this column because it's the most egregious example on display. Still, it is worth noting that Kubo Won't Let Me Be Invisible, headed by Pony Canyon, has also announced a delay until April. It's a tough situation all around.


Yes, I can read. I was just noting the specific details regarding the staff.
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