×
  • remind me tomorrow
  • remind me next week
  • never remind me
Subscribe to the ANN Newsletter • Wake up every Sunday to a curated list of ANN's most interesting posts of the week. read more

Forum - View topic
REVIEW: Urusei Yatsura 2024 Anime Series Episodes 37-46 Review


Goto page 1, 2  Next

Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
MFrontier



Joined: 13 Apr 2014
Posts: 12156
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:35 am Reply with quote
I will miss David Production nailing this remake and the entire cast, especially Lum.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
njprogfan
Collector Extraordinaire



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Posts: 1193
Location: A River Named Toms
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:35 pm Reply with quote
Having never watched the original but knowing of its legend, I went into this with a blank slate and like you thought they nailed it 95% of the time. It always had me laughing at some point and the comedic timing was on point. I loved the madcap energy this series had and unless they put out OVA's or a random movie I'll miss these nutcase characters and especially the voice work of Sumire Uesaka's Lum-cha.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
louis6578



Joined: 31 Jul 2013
Posts: 1870
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:21 pm Reply with quote
I kind of expect that no matter what this version did better, it would never get the finale as well as the original (which adapted the final arc as the 5th (and only canonical) movie). I think this is the kind of story that was meant for theaters.

Speaking of which. Fun idea that won't ever happen: David Productions can remake the movies of the original with their updated visuals and VAs. At least Beautiful Dreamer maybe? I doubt it, but it'd be fun.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
Swissman



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 780
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:10 am Reply with quote
louis6578 wrote:
Speaking of which. Fun idea that won't ever happen: David Productions can remake the movies of the original with their updated visuals and VAs. At least Beautiful Dreamer maybe? I doubt it, but it'd be fun.

Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough, especially movie 3 with Yûji Moriyama as animation director and Beautiful Dreamer. As much as I like the modern designs of the reboot and the colorful visuals, I can't imagine them to work for retelling the old movies (except Only you, maybe).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Covnam



Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 3746
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:17 am Reply with quote
Never got around to watching the original, so I went in to this blind and enjoyed it. I thought the series was pretty funny overall, though this last season was the weakest.
The relationship between the leads didn't really work for me though. Perhaps the build up was done better in the manga (I read that about a third of the chapters weren't adapted), but Lum tirelessly pursuing someone who wasn't interested in her (until late in this adaptation when he suddenly shows some interest/jealousy) and attacking him over it wore thin as the series went on.
Maybe this series is really about how negative reinforcement can be effective? Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dayraven



Joined: 21 Jul 2021
Posts: 180
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:53 am Reply with quote
There isn’t all that much buildup in the manga — it’s more of a switch from the earliest chapters portraying Ataru as an ordinary guy with Lum as an unsympathetic pursuer (and Shinobu as Ataru’s girlfriend), to a more sympathetic Lum as Ataru becomes the world’s worst skirt-chaser. The new dynamic’s fairly set once Shinobu breaks up with Ataru.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Beatdigga



Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4457
Location: New York
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:42 am Reply with quote
Dayraven wrote:
There isn’t all that much buildup in the manga — it’s more of a switch from the earliest chapters portraying Ataru as an ordinary guy with Lum as an unsympathetic pursuer (and Shinobu as Ataru’s girlfriend), to a more sympathetic Lum as Ataru becomes the world’s worst skirt-chaser. The new dynamic’s fairly set once Shinobu breaks up with Ataru.


I think there's a reason Beautiful Dreamer and the anime film version of the Final Chapter emerged from that, namely that everyone was frustrated with that status quo. Not sure if, with the shortened length, a remake of the former has the same impact.

spoiler[Also it seems that the revamped ending keeps the same general beats, but cuts out the frustration of everyone around Ataru for refusing to commit either way. The manga ends with Ataru swearing he will never say he loves Lum out loud while getting pelted with trash, the movie ends with the town straight up sick of both their crap and prepared to lynch Ataru.]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Swissman



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 780
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:35 am Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
spoiler[Also it seems that the revamped ending keeps the same general beats, but cuts out the frustration of everyone around Ataru for refusing to commit either way. The manga ends with Ataru swearing he will never say he loves Lum out loud while getting pelted with trash, the movie ends with the town straight up sick of both their crap and prepared to lynch Ataru.]

He actually says spoiler[he'll only tell her on his deathbed], meaning it's okay for Lum to spoiler[chase him until the end of his life.] What a twisted way of spoiler[expressing his love and affection towards her.]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Amritzer



Joined: 24 Jun 2024
Posts: 47
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:55 am Reply with quote
Swissman wrote:

Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough.
Maybe for you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Swissman



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 780
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:44 am Reply with quote
Amritzer wrote:
Swissman wrote:

Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough.
Maybe for you.

Looks like you don't agree. Can you expand further?
I've been a fan of the original movies since the mid nineties and I'm fine with them. I don't remember anyone back then complaining about the visuals. The reboot visuals are fine, but I don't see them matching the movies which had a darker atmosphere, like Lum the forever.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Beatdigga



Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 4457
Location: New York
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:48 pm Reply with quote
Swissman wrote:

He actually says spoiler[he'll only tell her on his deathbed], meaning it's okay for Lum to spoiler[chase him until the end of his life.] What a twisted way of spoiler[expressing his love and affection towards her.]


This is why I prefer the spoiler[town lynches them both ending. It at least channels the endless frustration the viewer feels towards a valid target while allowing Rumiko to stay true to the central gag of the series. She can stick with the gag, but the audience is sick of it and ready to show it.]

It’s also why I think Yatsura’s ending is better than Ranma’s.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Amritzer



Joined: 24 Jun 2024
Posts: 47
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:45 am Reply with quote
Swissman wrote:

Looks like you don't agree. Can you expand further?
Good enough isn't enough these days, especially when it comes to old anime, and regardless of how well they hold up.

Also, most of us simply like shiny NEW things.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Swissman



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 780
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:41 pm Reply with quote
Amritzer wrote:
Swissman wrote:

Looks like you don't agree. Can you expand further?
Good enough isn't enough these days, especially when it comes to old anime, and regardless of how well they hold up.

Also, most of us simply like shiny NEW things.

In other words, YOU don't like the look of the old movies and prefer new shiny designs.
Good for you, but there are plenty of people who still prefer the old style, so don't make it out as if I belong to a minority.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Amritzer



Joined: 24 Jun 2024
Posts: 47
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:15 pm Reply with quote
Swissman wrote:

In other words, YOU don't like the look of the old movies and prefer new shiny designs.
Good for you, but there are plenty of people who still prefer the old style, so don't make it out as if I belong to a minority.
I watched everything Urusei Yatsura in order of airing, around 2011, with movies, and specials between the episodes that aired at the time of their airing.

I watched all the way till that one collaboration special from 2008; I also added most characters to MAL database, and their pictures, including this one:

https://myanimelist.net/character/54647/Super_Delicious_Planet_Golden_Special_Reserve_Gorg? - I see they shortened his name because it was breaking the page.

There are literally countless old school characters (I'm talking about thousands of them) on MAL added by me over the years, and I can recognize the voice of most seiyu from 80s, 90s, and 2000s.

I never watch remakes before watching originals, etc.

Believe me, I spent more time with old school anime than most people, but I still live in the present, and I love seeing modern adaptations of old things.

For me personally, no matter how amazing some old anime is, it is still not sacred enough for me not to wish its modern version, because in the end we are talking about different experiences, even if they cover the same source material.

Btw, take a look at stats of UY movies, they really aren't all that popular.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Swissman



Joined: 11 May 2006
Posts: 780
Location: Switzerland
PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:05 am Reply with quote
Amritzer wrote:
Believe me, I spent more time with old school anime than most people, but I still live in the present, and I love seeing modern adaptations of old things.

For me personally, no matter how amazing some old anime is, it is still not sacred enough for me not to wish its modern version, because in the end we are talking about different experiences, even if they cover the same source material.

I'm still fine how the old movies are and the though of them being remade with the new visuals (and comedic timing) makes me shiver, especially Beautiful Dreamer. That's my opinion, you have yours. I have the right to state mine in response to that though experiment and I don't think I earned a short snarky remark from you in the first place, no matter how much you contributed to MAL and think you speak for the majority.

Quote:
Btw, take a look at stats of UY movies, they really aren't all that popular.

Older anime not being popular on a website which is mostly frequented by younger fans doesn't surprise me.

Btw, I appreciate the effort you did to provide additional information for folks on MAL.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website My Anime My Manga
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group